K180173 · Palo Alto Health Sciences, Inc. · HCC · Aug 23, 2018 · Neurology
Device Facts
Record ID
K180173
Device Name
Freespira
Applicant
Palo Alto Health Sciences, Inc.
Product Code
HCC · Neurology
Decision Date
Aug 23, 2018
Decision
SESE
Submission Type
Traditional
Regulation
21 CFR 882.5050
Device Class
Class 2
Attributes
Therapeutic
Indications for Use
Freespira is intended for use as a relaxation treatment for the reduction of stress by leading the user through guided and monitored breathing exercises. The device is indicated as an adjunctive treatment of symptoms associated with panic disorder (PD) and/or posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), to be used under the direction of a healthcare professional, together with other pharmacological and/or non-pharmacological interventions.
Device Story
Freespira is a biofeedback system for stress reduction and adjunctive treatment of PD and PTSD. It consists of a sensor and mobile app. The device measures exhaled carbon dioxide (EtCO2) and respiration rate (RR) to provide real-time feedback on breathing habits. Used at home under healthcare provider oversight; patients follow guided breathing exercises. Data is stored locally on a tablet and uploaded to a cloud server for clinician review. By monitoring EtCO2 and RR, the device helps patients adjust breathing patterns, potentially reducing symptoms associated with PD and PTSD. The system is designed for use alongside other pharmacological or non-pharmacological interventions.
Clinical Evidence
Prospective, single-arm, un-blinded study of 4-week program in PTSD patients. Primary endpoint: CAPS-5 score reduction. Results: 93% responder rate at 2-month follow-up (95% CI 77-99%); 48% remission rate. Mean CAPS-5 score decreased from 52.0 (baseline) to 25.8 (2-months) and 27.0 (6-months). High patient satisfaction reported.
Technological Characteristics
Biofeedback device measuring EtCO2 and respiration rate. Materials evaluated per ISO 10993-1. Electrical safety/EMC compliance: IEC 60601-1, ANSI/AAMI ES60601-1, IEC/EN 60601-1-2, IEC 60601-1-4, and IEC 60601-1-11. Connectivity: Local storage on tablet with cloud upload for clinician review. Power: Battery or AC adapter.
Indications for Use
Indicated for patients with panic disorder (PD) and/or posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) as an adjunctive treatment under the direction of a healthcare professional.
Regulatory Classification
Identification
A biofeedback device is an instrument that provides a visual or auditory signal corresponding to the status of one or more of a patient's physiological parameters (e.g., brain alpha wave activity, muscle activity, skin temperature, etc.) so that the patient can control voluntarily these physiological parameters.
Special Controls
*Classification.* Class II (special controls). The device is exempt from the premarket notification procedures in subpart E of part 807 of this chapter when it is a prescription battery powered device that is indicated for relaxation training and muscle reeducation and prescription use, subject to § 882.9.
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August 23, 2018
Palo Alto Health Sciences, Inc. % Allison Komiyama Principal Consultant AcKnowledge Regulatory Strategies, LLC 2834 Hawthorn St. San Diego, California 92104
Re: K180173
Trade/Device Name: Freespira Regulation Number: 21 CFR 882.5050 Regulation Name: Biofeedback Device Regulatory Class: Class II Product Code: HCC, CCK Dated: July 23, 2018 Received: July 24, 2018
Dear Allison Komiyama:
We have reviewed your Section 510(k) premarket notification of intent to market the device referenced above and have determined the device is substantially equivalent (for the indications for use stated in the enclosure) to legally marketed predicate devices marketed in interstate commerce prior to May 28, 1976, the enactment date of the Medical Device Amendments, or to devices that have been reclassified in accordance with the provisions of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (Act) that do not require approval of a premarket approval application (PMA). You may, therefore, market the device, subject to the general controls provisions of the Act. Although this letter refers to your product as a device, please be aware that some cleared products may instead be combination products. The 510(k) Premarket Notification Database located at https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfpmn/pmn.cfm identifies combination product submissions. The general controls provisions of the Act include requirements for annual registration, listing of devices, good manufacturing practice, labeling, and prohibitions against misbranding and adulteration. Please note: CDRH does not evaluate information related to contract liability warranties. We remind you, however, that device labeling must be truthful and not misleading.
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for Carlos L. Peña, PhD, MS Director Division of Neurological and Physical Medicine Devices Office of Device Evaluation Center for Devices and Radiological Health
Enclosure
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## Indications for Use
510(k) Number (if known) K180173
Device Name Freespira
#### Indications for Use (Describe)
Freespira is intended for use as a relaxation treatment for the reduction of stress by leading the user through guided and monitored breathing exercises. The device is indicated as an adjunctive treatment of symptoms associated with panic disorder (PD) and/or posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), to be used under the direction of a healthcare professional, together with other pharmacological and/or non-pharmacological interventions.
| Type of Use (Select one or both, as applicable) | |
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| <div><span style="font-size:16px">☒</span> Prescription Use (Part 21 CFR 801 Subpart D)</div> | <div><span style="font-size:16px">☐</span> Over-The-Counter Use (21 CFR 801 Subpart C)</div> |
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# 510(k) Summary K180173
## DATE PREPARED
August 23, 2018
### MANUFACTURER AND 510(k) OWNER
Palo Alto Health Sciences, Inc. 12020 113th Ave NE, Building C, Suite 215 Kirkland, WA 98034, U.S.A. Telephone: (925) 786-8409 Fax: (844) 394-2533 Official Contact: Simon Thomas, COO
## REPRESENTATIVE/CONSULTANT
Allison C. Komiyama, Ph.D., R.A.C. Aarthi Karkal, M.S. AcKnowledge Regulatory Strategies, LLC Telephone: Email: akomiyama@acknowledge-rs.com
#### PROPRIETARY NAME OF SUBJECT DEVICE
Freespira®
## COMMON NAME / DEVICE CLASSIFICATION
Device, Biofeedback (21 CFR 882.5050, HCC, Class II) Analyzer, Gas, Carbon-Dioxide, Gaseous-Phase (21 CFR 868.1400, CCK, Class II)
#### PREMARKET REVIEW
ODE/DNPMD/Neurodiagnostic and Neurosurgical Devices Branch (NDNB) ODE/DAGRID/Anesthesiology Devices Branch (ANDB)
#### INDICATIONS FOR USE
Freespira® is intended for use as a relaxation treatment for the reduction of stress by leading the user through guided and monitored breathing exercises. The device is indicated as an adjunctive treatment of symptoms associated with panic disorder (PD) and/or posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), to be used under the direction of a healthcare professional, together with other pharmacological and/or non-pharmacological interventions.
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## DEVICE DESCRIPTION
Freespira® is intended for use as a relaxation treatment for the reduction of stress by leading the user through guided and monitored breathing exercises. The device is indicated as an adjunctive treatment of symptoms associated with panic disorder (PD) and/or posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), to be used under the direction of a healthcare professional, together with other pharmacological and/or nonpharmacological interventions. Freespira is authorized and overseen by a licensed healthcare provider. Patients are trained to use the Freespira Sensor and the Freespira Mobile App to measure and display their exhaled carbon dioxide (EtCO₂) level and respiration rate (RR) and how different breathing habits affect EtCO2 levels.
## PREDICATE DEVICE IDENTIFICATION
Freespira is substantially equivalent to the following predicate:
| 510(k) Number | Predicate Device Name / Manufacturer | Primary Predicate |
|---------------|--------------------------------------|-------------------|
| K131586 | Canary Breathing™ System | Yes |
## SUMMARY OF NON-CLINICAL TESTING
No FDA performance standards have been established for Freespira. Reports on the following tests were provided to demonstrate safety based on current industry standards:
Biocompatibility: Patient contacting material was evaluated for biocompatibility in compliance to ISO 10993-1:2009(R)2013 Biological evaluation of medical devices – Part 1: Evaluation and testing within a risk management process.
Software Verification: The software development and testing was executed according to FDA's Guidance for the Content of Premarket Submissions for Software Contained in Medical Devices.
Electromagnetic Compatibility and Electrical Safety: The subject device was tested in compliance to methods outlined in IEC 60601-1:1988 +A1:1991 +A2:1995 - Medical Electrical Equipment Part 1: General Requirements for Safety; ANSI/AAMI ES60601-1:2005 Medical Electrical Equipment - Part 1: General Requirements For Basic Safety And Essential Performance; IEC/EN 60601-1-2:2007 - Medical electrical equipment - Part 1-2: General requirements for basic safety and essential performance - Collateral standard: Electromagnetic compatibility -Requirements and tests; IEC 60601-1-4:1996 + A1:1999 - Medical electrical equipment - Part 1-4: General requirements for safety - Collateral standard: Programmable electrical medical systems; and IEC 60601-1-11:2010 - Medical electrical equipment - Part 1-11: General requirements for basic safety and essential performance - Collateral Standard: Requirements for medical electrical equipment and medical electrical systems used in the home healthcare environment.
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### 510(k) Summary
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## SUMMARY OF CLINICAL TESTING
Palo Alto Health Sciences Inc. performed a prospective, single arm, un-blinded investigation of Freespira in the indicated population. Patients with a primary diagnosis of PTSD (military and non-military, combat and non-combat) were enrolled into a four-week Freespira program. At enrollment, and then at specified intervals, patients underwent assessment using validated questionnaires (PHQ-9, SF-36, PDSS, CGC-S and CAPS-5 30-day score). In addition, every time a patient used Freespira, their EtCO2 and RR data were stored locally (on the tablet) and securely uploaded to a cloud server for clinician review.
The primary endpoint of this study was: quantitative improvements using the Clinician Administered PTSD Scale (CAPS-5). Using this scale, "Response" was defined as a reduction of 6 or more points. "Remission" was defined as Response plus no longer meeting clinical symptom criteria and having a severity score < 25.
The primary effectiveness hypothesis was that from baseline to the 2-month follow-up, at least 50% of study participants will experience a response to the treatment (defined as a 6-point reduction in CAPS-5 score from baseline).
Results demonstrate that this hypothesis was met: at 2-month post-treatment follow-up, the proportion of responders was 93% [with 95% Cl between 77-99%]. In addition, at 2-months the rate of remission was 48% and the mean CAPS score decreased from 52.0 at baseline to 25.8.
Post-treatment (week 5) the proportion of responders was 88% [with an unadjusted 95% Cl between 71-96%] and the rate of remission was 25%. Mean CAPS score decreased from 52.0 at baseline to 32.0.
At the 6-months post-treatment follow-up, the proportion of responders was 91% [with an unadjusted 95% Cl between 71-99%] and the rate of remission was 50%. The mean CAPS-5 score decreased from 52.0 at baseline to 27.0 showing stability of improvement.
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## 510(k) Summary
A consistently large proportion of subjects achieved a decrease in their CAPS-5 score as the threshold definition of response increased in magnitude (from 11% to 40% of the change from baseline).
| | >=6 pts<br>decrease<br>from<br>baseline<br>[=11%]* | >=10 pts<br>decrease<br>from<br>baseline<br>[=19%]* | >=13 pts<br>decrease<br>from<br>baseline<br>[=25%]* | >=16 pts<br>decrease<br>from<br>baseline<br>[=30%]* | >=21 pts<br>decrease<br>from<br>baseline<br>[=40%]* |
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| Post-tx | 88% | 81% | 71% | 59% | 38% |
| 2-months | 93% | 83% | 84% | 69% | 59% |
| 6-months | 90% | 86% | 86% | 73% | 59% |
#### Response Rates with increasing Thresholds of Response Definition
*% change from mean baseline score of 52.0
The following adverse events were reported as possibly related to the treatment: chest pain, cold symptoms, and headache.
Patient satisfaction with Freespira was high post-treatment (84%), at 2-months (74%), and 6-months (90%) post-treatment. These percentages were based on the number of patients who gave a score of 3 or 4 on a 0-4 scale (where "0" meant "not satisfied" and "4″ meant "very satisfied") at each time point.
The clinical data demonstrate that Freespira provides a safe and effective, adjunct at-home treatment for the symptoms associated with PTSD that can be easily and widely disseminated. Freespira is completed in 4-weeks at-home without unpleasant side-effects. This likely contributed to the relatively low dropout rate (20%), high protocol adherence (77%), and high satisfaction scores (84%).
#### EQUIVALENČE TO PREDIČATE DEVIČE
Freespira is substantially equivalent to the predicate device based on the information summarized here:
The subject device has the same design and dimensions, and uses identical materials as the device cleared in K131586. The subject device has the same technological characteristics to the device cleared in K131586 except that the device can now also be used while it is plugged into the AC power adaptor. The fundamental difference between the two devices is that the subject device has expanded indications that include its use as an adjunct treatment for symptoms associated with PTSD. The subject device has undergone bench and clinical testing to ensure the device is as safe and effective as the predicate.
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### 510(k) Summary
## CONCLUSION
Based on the testing performed, namely a prospective clinical study, it can be concluded that the subject device does not raise new issues of safety or efficacy compared to the predicate device. The similar technological characteristics and performance characteristics for the proposed Freespira are assessed to be substantially equivalent to the predicate device. The device is considered safe and effective for its intended use.
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